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Gryphon擴音機與Argento線材的分享

KLauKLau
Hello各位,我是新會員又是HiFi初哥,希望在這裡吸收各位的經驗,豐富到自己的知識,請大家多多指教!以下是我最近購買擴音機及電源線的一些心得,希望分享給大家.

自己一向很喜歡Gryphon的獨特音色及個性,所以在7月初購入Gryphon Diablo擴音機,很多朋友質疑我為什麼用這個價錢購入一部合併機而不選擇前後級擴音機,因為理論上前後級在質數上應比合併機好的,我不敢評論這是否對或錯,但在忠於自己喜愛音色下,加上經驗所限,不想攪太多線材上配搭的煩惱,我要最簡單最直接享受到自己的音樂,在眾多牌子及這個價錢範圍中,我只覺得Diablo符合自己要求,而事實我沒有選擇錯誤.它帶給我享受音樂的樂趣,一種嘆歌的感覺.

但問題隨著run in中期時發生了,就是我發覺原用的CSE L30R電源線不太夾Diablo,在Micro Utopia Be所播放的音樂下過於湧腫及濃厚,層次不分明,音樂分隔度不足,中頻量過多,種種跡象顯示L30R及Diablo出現個性重疊問題.所以立即四出尋找合適電源線,在個多月時間中,我除了問朋友借些電源線作測試外,亦都在各店鋪中測試了多條有名氣的電源線, 這包括在很多網友門極力推薦與Gryphon極之匹配的有名電源線,但結果都是沒有一條合自己要求.是否我不懂欣賞還是自己要求過高呢?

由於已有放棄的念頭,在往後的時間已沒有刻意去找了,但在一次機緣巧合下認識了Piano Tuner,在一次交談中談及自己系統上的問題,他了解過後用堅定的態度建議我用Argento Level I Mark II電線線,問題可一一解決. Argento這牌子只是兩年前在一位朋友家中聽過,音色已沒有印象,但這是我第一次見到有人全部線材用上同一牌子.在大部份的HiFi友(包括自己)的理念下,如果在一套系統上用多過超過兩條同一牌子線材會出現個性重疊問題,但這理念在用上Argento後令我有所改變!
待續....
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  • MarvelMarvel
    Klau,

    Before you continue your interesting article on the pursuit of a matching power cord for your Diablo, pardon me to jump in to share a bit of my comments towards avoid using the same brand of cable twice in your system. First and foremost, I need to ask a question on the function of a cable. To some, it may serve to add flavours by imposing certain sonic characteristics to the entire system. Along this line, I tend to agree using more cables of the same brand would make the flavour even more apparent and from the perspective of neutrality, 2 perhaps is the magic number and above which the flavour would be too dominant and becomes a source of coloration.

    Another camp of thought which I am incline to stay with is that the function of a cable is a true and complete transmission of the signal in all domains of energy, bandwidth, speed, etc. The less degradation on each and every of these attributes, the better the cable is. If such cable exists, then I see no problem of using it in all locations. When lives become that simple, I don't think we need more people like Jlam and PianoTuner to go out trying all sort of gears, room tuning devices in order to compose a perfectly neutral system in a less constrained room acoustics because without which any evaluation on cables would undoubtedly become biased and inaccurate.

    Don't want to distract too much, please continue....

    Marvel
  • MarvelMarvel
    One more supplement. Cables always form part of the circuitry (though a passive component it may be in most cases), so if this part of the circuitry is good, I don't mind to 'deploy' it to other parts in order build a more 'synergised' circuitry...sorry to jump in again...



  • MingMing
    Klau, where is part 2?

    Ming
  • JLam_ExoticsJLam_Exotics

    Hello Mr. Klau,

    首先很感謝你寫了一篇好文章。Audio Exotics能有你的支持也很高興。在這裡想和你分享一下音響人應走的路。看到你那麽努力去運用好自己所選定之器材，真的很感動！我已見到太多人舉旗不定隨波逐流。見到名氣牌子就算你好言相告流幣，反而會換來一句：我蝕得起你吹咩！但到真正蝕得很多時，又會諸多動作。反而一些有熱誠但沒有大財力的，就常被壓詐。總之AE會配合大家一起研究一起發展。

    Gryphon Diablo擴音機的特性與吸引人之處Mr. Klau已說得清楚。它是一部比Krell全頻連貫性強，中底音密度高的作品。我相信配合了Argento會把高音明亮化及增強低音層次感。演奏技巧如vibrato, Staccato等會被加強。而整首樂曲的結構也會因此浮現。

    要告訴大家你的結果啊！By the way, 古時有雨匹戰馬，一匹叫Argento另一匹叫Sccato。一白一黑帶領將士勇住直前......

    JLam Music Nation

  • JeffJeff
    Jlam,

    I dislike 隨波逐流. That's why we meet here.

    Keep up the good work. When will my Heritage arrive?

    Jeff
  • KLauKLau
    老實說,在未購買Level 1前我對這牌子沒有認識,只是透過Piano Tuner說出它的特性,但真正使用上究竟是否適合我的口味嗎?如果買回來不滿意怎辦?又要放上2手市場?所以考慮了一陣之後我就跟Piano Tuner說我不想買了, 其後Argento代理林先生回覆我其實是想借給我先試用,喜歡就賣下它,不喜歡還給他也沒所謂,我第一個反應是"我又不是熟客,那有這麼著數?老實說,我跟林先生素未謀面,這樣做生意存在著一定的風險!萬一拿不回線怎辦?但作為客人的我,這方面是不用考慮的,反正不用錢就可試新線,那管他了,即管一試無妨吧!在拿電源線的同時,原來林先生多借一對Serenity SE RCA給我一試,都是那句, "反正不用錢就可試新線....."!

    回家立即拔走舊線換入新線,先以小音量煲它2小時,而事實Diablo是需要個多小時才開聲的,2小時後先試聽Jazz at the Pawnshop(我喜歡用這碟試新器材的),由第一cut開始,我已聽出整個音樂明顯清爽,清楚及幼細了很多,感覺是已沒有了薄紗似的,中頻過多的現象也改善了,樂器之間的定位很清楚,質感不失,但最重要的是它沒有埋身的感覺,其實L30R也沒有,我之前試了幾條名線,雖然它們都可做到清爽明快,但不是質感不夠,就是有埋身及"響亮"的感覺,所以我不喜歡.在第三cut中段開始我感到一種驚訝,我聽到一種很強音樂連灌性,整個音樂頻段很平均,感覺是非常順滑悅耳,這種感覺是我在其它線材中從來沒有聽過的,即是我用在cd機的Harmonic Teah.Magic Reference也沒有,其實可能自己見識少吧?但由於Level One量感不及L30R,所以在聽一些敲擊樂器時沒有那麼"過癮",但反而帶給我一種真實音樂感覺,我估計是因為Level One沒有誇大某一頻段而造成一種音染或味精吧?

    Level 0ne彷忽就像與Diablo天生一對似的,一拍即合.本來打算利用一星期試聽,但第二天晚上已決定買下它了.Level One帶給我一種新的體驗,而由於這種體驗令到我對HiFi重播音樂有了新的定義及標準.

    其後第四天我才開始試聽Serenity SE RCA,結果......

    待續...
  • MingMing
    KaWo,

    How do you feel the cable? I wait many days.

    Ming
  • KLauKLau
    第四天深夜試聽了Serenity,結果是沒甚大驚喜的,音色跟我現用的純銀X牌XLR差不多,帶中性,少音染,而且聲底也比較單薄些,量感也不多,音樂線條是幼細些,但不明顯,由於是深夜,所以只聽了半小時就關機睡覺了.

    第五天正式AB比較Serenity和我現用X牌純銀XLR.我很滿意X在我系統中的表現,所以我對X牌是很有信心.同樣是Jazz at the Pawnshop第一cut開始,由於音色大家差不多,帶中性,通透幼細類型,所以我要返覆AB試聽了三次才清楚知道有什麼分別.在樂器的定位上,兩對線都表現出色,但Serenity就更可表現出音樂及樂器的立體層次感.而X牌這方面就表現得較平面化. Serenity泛音豐富,細節也較多,整體音樂暢順悅耳,而高音方面也較平順,反而X牌就有些量過大的問題.

    我的系統一向播小提琴不好聲,一路以來都認為可能是Micro Utopia隻Be高音太厲害所致.而由於Serenity在高音處理較其他牌子銀線收歛,所以就以小提琴試一試它,果然不出所料,我可聽到一把真正的小提琴在演奏,而由於器材所限,雖然它不是一把很靚的小提琴.....,但這方面已給我很大的驚喜,至少我已找到真正原兇了!

    由於Argento線材音色中性,少音染,在試聽的3小時中,我沒有發覺因同時使用了Level One 及Serenity所帶來的負面影響或性格重疊等問題.現在我知道我的朋友為什麼全套線材也用上Argento!

    雖然Argento也許不是最好最完美的線材,而事實器材和線材也沒有最好之分,但Argento可以提升我的系統播放質數之餘而不會改變我所喜愛的音色,這是很難得的.HiFi在某程度上其實是個人玩意,不需要認同及奉承,在我眼中,好聲與否(但某程度上好聲是需要某一定標準的),就是整套系統中所播放出的音樂,是否已達到自己所追求的目標.而HiFi用家又是否在能力,知識和心機上做出自己認為最"完美"的音樂?這不單只是用"金錢"就可達成.

    ***完***
  • KLauKLau
    Marvel,我說那個全套用Argento的朋友是認識你的,希望日後可以多多指教!

    JLam,不用客氣,我覺得這裡的氣氛比較和平,而網友也比較理性及成熟,所以才大膽在這裡奉醜.這是我在玩兩聲道第一次寫的文章,如有寫得不好的地方,希望不要見怪.

    Ming,由於最近多數時間在大陸工作及煩忙關係,所以出文章比較慢,今天才有空閑寫餘下的文章,真的對不起.
  • MingMing
    Klau,your artcile is very good. I like argento sound very much, very peaceful and calm.
  • JLam_ExoticsJLam_Exotics

    Good Report !! A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. THANKS KLau.

    JLam MN
  • MarvelMarvel
    Klau,

    Love to meet you and your friend someday. Your Chinese writing is indeed very structured and well written.

    Marvel
  • AlexAlex
    Klau,

    I have the Diablo too. Your article is very well written. I borrowed one for home trial. Your comments are the same as mine. I have a question on the serenity cable? Is rca or xlr better for the Diablo?

    Alex
  • KLauKLau
    Hello Alex,

    Nice to meet you and I'm very happy you are using Diablo too, we can share more experience each other.

    Regarding Serenity SE, I'm trying RCA, but I wil borrow one pair XLR this week and compare them which one is the best in my system. I will tell you the result later.

    Will you interesting to try Serenity?
  • AlexAlex
    Klau,

    I am testing the serenity xlr cable together with the serenity spk cable now. I like it a lot. But I am confused. Some say xlr better, some say rca better. Maybe, I just buy the xlr. I have not enough time to test.

    I feel the music is very pure, very quiet. The cable is very balance. My impression same as yours. What source are you using? I am using the orpheus zero player. I consider add the O1SE dac if bonus is good this year.

    Alex
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